Poker Study Group

[bennymacca]

Just as a side note, i tried rereading some of the chapters in Kill Everyone (by Lee Nelson) the other day, and some of the maths involved with calculating equilibrium plays, bubble factors and tournament equity just does my head in. It would be good to get the views of various people on these ussies and others, to see what they got out of them.

Yeah, the math is non-trivial, and from memory he even says it is not neccessary (or even possible) to actually work bubble factors etc out in your head, at the table whether live or online. But to be aware of how they affect your tournament equity, and therefore your push/fold shortstack play. For example, if you are in a situation where your equity is reduced by the bubble factors, it would be good to open up your pushing range (because you benefit more by winning say 600 chips from the blinds, than a bigger stack suffers from losing them). You dont need an exact number here, just a sense of how it should affect your play. Conversely if your tournament equity is increased (ie have big stack) you should open your calling range against a short stack. Been awhile since I read this, so i may have misexplained that... Trying to find the book again, but cant lay my hands on it...
Of course, the one flaw with this (and alot of poker strategy) is it assumes your opponent is aware of it and doing the same.

no discussion in this thread please. save it for when the time comes

[AJG]

Edit: ok, but bugger I had just written a farily long post about a time when someone bet me out of a dry side pot, and they couldnt have been sure they were ahead or going to be on the river, and ended up losing anyway, whereas I would have busted the player allin had we seen all 5 cards together.

[bennymacca]

that can be a list item.

[madali]

Sounds like a wonderful idea and I would like to be involved.

[bennymacca]

i knew you would gayle.

[rcon]

benny the cunt - I'm a bit snowed atm, but I'd love to contribute occasionally. Think it would be a fantastic opportunity to research an aspect of the game and reason out my thoughts on it formally.

[bennymacca]

benny the cunt - I'm a bit snowed atm, but I'd love to contribute occasionally. Think it would be a fantastic opportunity to research an aspect of the game and reason out my thoughts on it formally.

completely fine.

my thinking is, if there are 12 people in the group for instance, then you would have to formally contribute once every 12 weeks.

almost like a very short literature review on a certain topic (hope that doesn't scare anyone off)

so if the topic is "starting hand ranges and position" then someone might write a bit about it, and then provide links to 2p2, or a chapter of a book, or an article that they found etc. preferrably at least 2 different sources.

then, hopefully there is some differences, and we can THINK about why these are different.

so then this will become a good source of information for less experienced players, and get more experienced players to think about WHY things the way they are.

[AceLosesKing]

Yeah, fwiw I'll just be pasting links from 2+2

[bennymacca]

Yeah, fwiw I'll just be pasting links from 2+2

straight links are not allowed, you have to paraphrase it yourself, into your own words, and just post the links at the end as a reference.

there have been heaps of threads that we have started that are just posting links, but they all die because either no-one reads the links, or they read and dont think about it.

i want get some discussion going.

if you are not prepared to do this, then thats completely fine

[AceLosesKing]

Nah, that was always my plan dude. Links with actual text in between them.