Semi Final railing

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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby muzzington » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:32 am

gundog wrote:I hit the rail during the 700/1400 blind level, I'm UTG +2 when I see the 1st pocket pair for the day 9's.

my decision process had me thinking with just over 11k, do I flat call, 3 bet or shove, flat call is not an option, if I 3 bet it would cost over 1/3rd of my stack and possible get multiple callers, a shove would limit me to 1 caller or pickup the ante's and blinds.

I shove, mid position tanks for sometime before folding (He annonced he had pocket jacks at the end of the hand), the player to his right tanks for a short time and shoves over the top with 30k + thus clearing the decks for heads up.

He turns over pocket K's and the flop is 10 Q 8 giving me a gutshot draw the turn is a 6 and the river another Q, I'm off to the rail

Question: Placed in the same situation what would you have done?

Oh well the day was not a total failure, my Demons beat the Crows sending them to 3/0 for the season.


3-bet? Had UTG raised?
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby bennymacca » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:21 am

gundog wrote:my decision process had me thinking with just over 11k, do I flat call, 3 bet or shove, flat call is not an option, if I 3 bet it would cost over 1/3rd of my stack and possible get multiple callers, a shove would limit me to 1 caller or pickup the ante's and blinds.


firstly, its not a 3bet, its just a raise the way you have described it.

secondly, i think its perfectly fine to shove there. just unlucky that you ran into a monster hand. cant do much about that
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby gundog » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:33 am

bennymocha wrote:
gundog wrote:my decision process had me thinking with just over 11k, do I flat call, 3 bet or shove, flat call is not an option, if I 3 bet it would cost over 1/3rd of my stack and possible get multiple callers, a shove would limit me to 1 caller or pickup the ante's and blinds.


firstly, its not a 3bet, its just a raise the way you have described it.

secondly, i think its perfectly fine to shove there. just unlucky that you ran into a monster hand. cant do much about that


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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby bennymacca » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:48 am

thats what i thought mate.

nah, your shove is completely fine. any time you have less than about 10BB, you should be shoving.

these things happen, sometimes you just aren't meant to run deep in a tourney when you run into a monster hand like that, its just bad luck
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby mr_smooth81 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:57 am

Is there a bad beat thread yet??

only had about 7k after posting my bb about 10 mins before the recombine, get 89 off, folded around to sb, who calls my bb, and i check

flop - 5 6 7

sb goes all in, i snap call thinking you little beauty!!!!!

he shows 7-2 off for the top pair, not a bad move considering the board and the fact i'm very short on chips. I of course have a straight and i'm sitting pretty

turn 2

river 7

FML!!

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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby Swanky » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:17 am

Mrs. Mooth (see what I did there?? man I'm funny!) I think my definition of a bad beat and yours are very different.
That really became the battle of the blinds there and you got unlucky.
If you had of jammed pre-flop and he called - bad beat.
If you had of jammed post flop and he called - bad beat.
He jammed, you called with best hand at the time - unlucky.
If you are passive, you are inviting a bad beat, if you are agressive, (hopefully) you should eliminate those players from the hand before they get a chance to sap your will.
Unlucky mate.
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby AceLosesKing » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:23 am

old man Swanky wrote:Mrs. Mooth (see what I did there?? man I'm funny!) I think my definition of a bad beat and yours are very different.
That really became the battle of the blinds there and you got unlucky.
If you had of jammed pre-flop and he called - bad beat.
If you had of jammed post flop and he called - bad beat.
He jammed, you called with best hand at the time - unlucky.
If you are passive, you are inviting a bad beat, if you are agressive, (hopefully) you should eliminate those players from the hand before they get a chance to sap your will.
Unlucky mate.
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Wtf.

Its still a beat.
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby bennymacca » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:29 am

its a bad beat, but what i think old man Swanky is trying to say, is that no-one played the hand that badly.

kinda. limping the sb with 2-7 is pretty bad
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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby mr_smooth81 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:42 am

at the time, i didn't really think much of it, until my hour and a half drive home!!

i played on your table (table 15) old man Swanky - i'm the big guy sitting directly across from you, you were pretty unlucky!!

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Re: Semi Final railing

Postby bennymacca » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:46 am

who ended up winning?


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