Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby BigPete33 » Fri May 23, 2008 4:35 pm

Ohhh you're naughty!


You really shouldn't be doing favours like that for your friends, it's all about winning! Can still be friends after the poker has finished.
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Garth Kay » Fri May 23, 2008 4:36 pm

In this circumstance Caroline,
I would declare the entire hand dead and all chips are forfeited.
You and your friend would also be expelled from the tournament and suspended for at least ten weeks.

This is what is classified as collusion or soft playing, more soft playing than collusion.

But what you have described is a huge NO NO!!

If you did not know that person would you have acted differently? Yes, you would. Always play to win, no matter who your opponent is.
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Scotty » Fri May 23, 2008 4:37 pm

From what I can gather, you've intentionally exposed your hand when there is still action to follow. That would be a muck IMO.

Unless I'm reading it wrong :D

Edit : I was hoping I was reading it wrong.

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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby AceLosesKing » Fri May 23, 2008 4:43 pm

From what I can tell you intentionally showed your hand so your friend could save chips and fold his flush, the losing hand.

That is SO not allowed.
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Nevah play JJ » Fri May 23, 2008 4:46 pm

Garth Kay wrote:In this circumstance Caroline,
I would declare the entire hand dead and all chips are forfeited.
You and your friend would also be expelled from the tournament and suspended for at least ten weeks.

This is what is classified as collusion or soft playing, more soft playing than collusion.

But what you have described is a huge NO NO!!

If you did not know that person would you have acted differently? Yes, you would. Always play to win, no matter who your opponent is.


WOW!!!
I honestly had NO idea Garth...

There was no collusion at all, especially with them to play like that. It was purely ME that made that decision.

To answer your question "If you did not know that person would you have acted differently?" I would have to say no, I wouldn't have. I would have done exactly the same thing.

However, saying all of this, I now know I can't do that and will not do it! I thought it was just a matter of bad manners, not a breach of the rules.
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby BigPete33 » Fri May 23, 2008 4:47 pm

lol

Smackies for Caroline!
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby rcon » Fri May 23, 2008 4:47 pm

I knocked my partner out last Saturday night Caroline - She hit her Q, I hit my set of 10s.

Whilst it cost me a drink, she eventaully forgave me :lol:


My partner and her sister often take lots of chips from each other. They do get over it!

Best to skip the soft play - I suspect the worst you could get away with is to check it down. If they bet, that is SO their lookout :lol: :lol: :lol: and who knows, maybe you were holding 3h4h, flop comes 5h6h7h, ouch if they are holding 8h, 9h!
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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Scotty » Fri May 23, 2008 4:49 pm

Nevah play JJ wrote:There was no collusion at all, especially with them to play like that. It was purely ME that made that decision.


There may not have been any collusion, but the way you played the hand post-flop definitley falls into the 'soft playing' category.

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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Scotty » Fri May 23, 2008 4:51 pm

rcon wrote:I knocked my partner out last Saturday night Caroline - She hit her Q, I hit my set of 10s.


LOL, I was expectng that to read : "She hit her Q, I hit my set of 10's. She hit me in the head."

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Re: Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

Postby Bacon » Fri May 23, 2008 4:53 pm

Scott wrote:There may not have been any collusion, but the way you played the hand post-flop definitley falls into the 'soft playing' category.


If JJ didn't know the players, would it be 'soft-playing' or 'slow-playing'? Is there a difference?

The issue I saw in it was the showing to stop the betting. That was the no-no.... but slow playing the str8 flush draws way more chips..

If that was me Caroline, I'd have gone all-in on the flop, so my mates knew I had something really decent. I know if my mate bets hard, he'd hit hard... so I fold.
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